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Caroline Kenner's avatar

I wholeheartedly agree with your words.

Here is the one thing I would add: in Maya Angelou's immortal words, "When someone shows you who they really are, believe them the first time."

This approach saves time and saves tears.

I am on my third marriage. The unsuspecting, rather weak, and very nice man I married first was unsuitable because he was out of my (etheric) weight class. I feel slightly sorry for him and am delighted in extreme retrospect that we did not try to lump along together. He's had a quiet, small, and respectable life, which would have suited me very poorly indeed, esp. the respectable part.

My second husband would not work to make money. He stole money from our daughter's trust fund because the cool $2 million he inherited himself from his parents did not suffice for even a decade after I left him. I left him when he was wealthy and healthy, because I knew he was creating a life of ill health and poverty, and I did not want to be involved with his race to impoverishment and chronic illness. He is a narcissist par excellence.

Meanwhile, my third husband already knew what I was, and was at peace with my weird role in this life. He's been my lucky star, and has also been an exceptionally fine step parent to my daughter from marriage #2. He is brilliant, hard-working, and we can retire comfortably because of his work. We just finished selling our two software companies last week.

I feel so lucky!!!

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Gary Herstein's avatar

Communication issues have always been the problem in the few ugly breakups I've had. I never assume the other person has a hidden agenda (conscious or otherwise), so that when there is one I never really saw it until it was too late.

X had a toxic relationship with her therapist (also a woman) in which neither one of them wanted to move the therapy forward (or just end it as not working.) X would just say things, and assume they must be true because she said them, and listening never entered her equations.

Z had spent 20+ yrs as an enabler for her profoundly narcissistic husband, and she would never admit how angry she was at *him*. For example: her family was quite well off, having managed and grown a high-end business in a niche market. Yet even though he'd signed the divorce settlement papers, he came back and demanded a significant amount of money. IL is a community property state and Z, her family, and their lawyers could have applied the screws to this d!ckless wonder's squishy bits. (The lawyers *REALLY* wanted to; this guy had absolutely no case.) But Z wouldn't fight, and so the family settled. Z, of course, just became angrier. And guess where that anger got vented?

But in both cases, I was too deep in to really analyze what was happening or why. So I left in anger, making it clear in both cases that neither of them would ever make any attempt to communicate with me again. (There was no violence behind that demand, just a very sincere and non-negotiable intention.)

SIDEBAR: the "three-legged table" analogy brought to mind a similarly structured picture. The author Robert Heinlein once argued that education was a three-legged stool, the legs being language, history, and mathematics; once a person has those, they can teach themselves anything. Heinlein's analogy fails, of course, because like the good ex-navy pilot cum engineer that he was, he didn't recognize that Art was a fourth and independent leg.

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